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  Promise Not to Make Appeals for Money

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "when he who says: ‘all the gold and silver of the mountains are mine,’ fails to provide necessary funds, we will understand it to be time to suspend the [watchtower] publication.” consistent with that, there is no begging for money in the literature of jehovah’s witnesses.. what is true of their literature is also true of their meetings.

  there are no emotional appeals for funds in their congregations or at their conventions.

  " - when he who says: ‘all the gold and silver of the mountains are mine,’ fails to provide necessary funds, we will understand it to be time to suspend the publication.” consistent with that, there is no begging for money in the literature of jehovah’s witnesses.. what is true of their literature is also true of their meetings.

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  Can you think of any instances where the WT has made "appeals" for money?

  Yes...a few years back I understand that in numerous circuits, forms like this one were given to all family heads as a plea for money:

  
  
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  Anyone get the feeling that the cult is really in trouble.

  by mickbobcat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so all the bs and hyperbole aside, to me it really looks like the cult is in trouble.

  shrinking member, selling halls.

  the move to televangelism is really strange to me.

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  Anyone Get The Feeling That The Cult Is Really In Trouble?

  It's one thing if you visit the different English speaking online chat rooms & forums...like this forum, exjw redditt & others including the ton of English exJW Youtube channels...it's quite another thing to see how much disgust there is in the Spanish JW community toward this cult.

  I recently visited Ex Testigos De Jehova Testimonios (Ex Jehovah's Witnesses Testimonials) and was blown away at the amount of traffic these Spanish exjw channels are getting. There are some ExJW Spanish Channels getting hundreds of thousands of visits and others getting millions of visits with thousands (1,000s) of comments and others with tens of thousands (10,000s) of comments.

  You don't know the amount of flack and grief WT is getting from within its ranks until you get outside your comfort zone and visit some of these foreign EXJW communities!

  So Yah...this cult is in a world of trouble...Yay!
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  KH's Still All Closed- How Bad is WT doing Financially?

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  most churches are back to in-person worship.

  not jehovah's witnesses.

  is watchtower still managing to fleece the flocks as the sheeple no longer get literature, no longer go to the kh, no longer walk past the donation box?

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  Kingdom Halls...Still All Closed...How Bad is WT Doing..

  Last official word from WT was Kingdom Halls might start opening-up August 2021. The rapid increase of new cases of Delta Variant Covid19 could be a game changer. WT recently mentioned covid related deaths are now 19,000 & rising and stressed the health and safety of rank and file was main concern.

  Doctors offices, restaurants, entertainment facilities, churches and businesses in general are pretty much back to normal with some safety precautionary in place but JWs are still in their 'Bunker' type mindset!
  
  
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  Leaked David Spane Apostate Rant? (Upcoming Lloyd Evans Video)

  by Jofi_Wofo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  lloyd has a reminder set for a "leaked" video that he will be reviewing tomorrow, but it lacks details in the description.

  does anyone know what video he is referring to, or is this an upcoming loyd evans exclusive?.

  i find leaks exciting, especially if it's something that was never meant to be public and puts some serious egg on the faces of the blundering body..

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  A good part of the U.S. is in what is termed 'Wild Fire Season'.

  GB member Splane's Saturaday afternoon 2021 Faith Convention talk will make many a JW wonder if their organization isn't dealing with their own Wild Fire...one of their own making!

  By the way Splane develops his talk and by the things he divulges...it pretty much such sounds like WT has zero containment of this onslaught of heat coming from victims of child abuse, PIMO members, exJW activists, YouTubers, T.V. documentaries and lawsuits in general.

  Yes WT...the heat is on and for many of us...it's a pleasure to watch you burn!
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  I think Splane is the Cult Leader. And I think there are more apostates working on the inside than we can imagine.

  by pistolpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so in the latest leaked video, splane goes on this crazy delusional rant about how faithful witnesses should never research their faith.. he criticizes the worldly court system and says they are not fair toward witnesses and the organization.

  he says the court system is rigged and witnesses who get convicted, (implied child sex abusers) are innocent.

  he is literally trying to justify child molesters and elders who cover them, as good people in "god's eyes" even though "human authorities" may judge them and put them in jail.

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  Holy Shit...what a senseless diatribe on the part of GB Splane toward persons, groups and institutions attempting to condemn and bring to justice his empire of false religion!

  I doubt that WT Broadcasting has much of an Editing Department...cause if they did they would have edited-out & eliminated at least half if not most of what Splane rant and raved about. According to Splane, WT admittedly has paid out 10s if not 100s of millions in out of court settlements with no apparent end of these cases in sight. Splane further hints about the enormous onslaught of individuals and their YouTube channels and television documentaries venting their anger against this cullt. His tirade just goes on and on and on.

  On second thought...maybe WT Broadcasting does have a decent Editing Department. Their reasoning for allowing Splane's convention talk could be along the lines of: 'Oh hell...we're in deep shit already...what more harm can his talk cause"!

  Apparently Splane gives his talk at the end of Saturday's session entitled "Put Up A Hard Fight For The Faith". In my most humble opinion a more fitting title would be: "Friends...There's Too Much Smoke For There Not To Be A Fire"!
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  Anyone get the feeling that the cult is really in trouble.

  by mickbobcat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so all the bs and hyperbole aside, to me it really looks like the cult is in trouble.

  shrinking member, selling halls.

  the move to televangelism is really strange to me.

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  High & optimal attendance at JW congregation meetings has always been a problem for Watchtower. It's a matter that COs have always addressed when making their circuit visits. Imagine a Kingdom Hall with a seating capacity of 200. Most congregations in big cities in the U.S. average around 130 publishers. Pre-covid19 a congregation with 130 publishers would see maybe 75 (60%) in attendance...where were the other 50 (40%) or so? It is most discouraging for those in attendance when absenteeism is that high.

  Currently the percentage of those attending Zoom meeting who have their cameras off is very high...as high as 60% in some congregations. Sixty percent with their cameras off can't be too encouraging for those who have their cameras on.

  I don't see the attendance at JW congregation meetings ever improving. Meeting attendance was bad enough pre-covid19. My guess is...a congregation pre-covid19 that was already with a high 40% absenteeism rate is likely to see that 40% shoot-up even higher.

  Now imagine a congregation, post-covid19, with 130 publishers where the absenteeism rate at an actual in-house meeting has jumped even higher...50% to 60%.

  Watchtower thought it had meeting attendance problems before covid19 hit...Oh mama what's the likelihood the it gets much worse?

  Yah...me thinks this cult's problems ain't going away any day soon!
  
  
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  KH's Still All Closed- How Bad is WT doing Financially?

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  most churches are back to in-person worship.

  not jehovah's witnesses.

  is watchtower still managing to fleece the flocks as the sheeple no longer get literature, no longer go to the kh, no longer walk past the donation box?

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  Kingdom Halls...Still All Closed...How Bad is WT Doing...

  WT Corporation is dealing with issues the Woolworth Corp and Montgomery Wards (Monkey Wards) in the U.S. eventually had to face...disinterest and indifference from the general public in their product line.

  I don't see the attendance at JW congregation meetings ever improving. Meeting attendance was bad enough pre-covid19.

  WT is very much like an old whore still walking the streets...at one time she may have turned heads...but now she/WT is old (over 100 years old), flabby, diseased & wrinkly looking...you almost have to feel sorry for her!

  Not to mention...an old slut doesn't bring in the cash she did when young and appealing to those who were taken-in by her allurement!
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  LOL: just have share a convo I just had with my PIMI wife

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so my wife and i just went on a walk, remember right now she has been listening to her convention.

  so she starts in with the world is getting bad and will end soon.

  what started it was we were talking about the economy and such.

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  JW GoneBad

  I know JW couples where either one or the other... where either the husband or the wife are die-hard JWs & the other spouse can hardly tolerate the cult let alone their heavily indoctrinated spouse. It's a difficult situation to be in.

  I feel for you goingthruthemotions!
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  Does this look like the WT is going to be around a long time? One Watchtower @ One Awake for the public in 2022

  by pistolpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i keep hearing that the watchtower org is going to be around forever because of the many other religions that have been around a long time.

  but i disagree because the wt is not like other religious cults.. the watchtower's breath of life is dependent on the last days that started in 1914. .

  you can’t change 1914 without a death blow to the entire organization.. the watchtower's 2nd reason for staying alive, is it's continual urging that the life saving preaching work of warning people is the most important work ever.. but- it's very obvious to many, even the old ones that instead of speeding up the work------the work is slowing down to a drip.. comment by former believer; .

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  JW GoneBad

  "2022 Public Magazines and New Literature Feature: We are pleased to inform you that the Governing Body decided that one new issue of the public edition of The Watchtower and one new issue of Awake! will be produced for 2022. Additionally, it has been decided to reprint two issues of The Watchtower and two issues of Awake! from previous years. Listed below are the subjects of the public magazines for 2022:"

  This BOE letter makes it official (straight from the horses mouth) that the Watchtower & Awake magazines will soon be going by way of the DeSoto automobile & Dinosaur!
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  What aspects do you view most favorably about the WT and/or its religion?

  by Disillusioned JW in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  even if you disapprove of much about the wt and/or its religion, what aspects do you view most favorably about the wt and/or its religion?

  for me one of the things i view most favorably about the wt and its religion is its extremely strong insistence that jws never intentionally kill another human being.

  i especially appreciate that regarding those who have been born, but i think some abortions of human embryos might be justifiable.

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  What aspects do I view most favorably about the WT and/or its religion?

  Its ability to make a ton of money flipping real estate! :) :)